[lucerna] [L] RE: Jewish Church & LNC

Lucerna Discussion lucerna@lists.newearth.org
Wed Jul 5 15:42:22 HST 2006

On Wed, 5 Jul 2006, Alan Longstaff wrote:

> Since this is on Lucerna, even though I don't want to confuse the issue,
> there is something here that takes me back to Greg's CONCERN about being
> very clear about specific words like "CALAM*". Alan

Hi Alan,

I'm not completely sure what you mean exactly. I'm not offering it as
"hair-splitting" semantic issue (to use Barrie's language about what we
are doing on Relform). Why would I do that? You know my interests and
level of thinking.

The issue is substantive and socially sensitive. It will impact the New
Church for centuries to come -- depending on how that issue is handled.

Have you seen my (partly auto-biographical) article on the issue of
anti-semitism in the Writings?

Anti-semitism and Holocaust Theology



> >Reply-To: Discussion on doctrine drawn out of the Latin
> >Word<lucerna@novahierosolyma.org>
> >To: lucerna@novahierosolyma.org
> >Subject: [lucerna] Jewish Church and the LNC are to be one
> >Date: Wed, 05 Jul 2006 09:33:25 -1000 (HST)
> Hi Doctrine Lovers, What do you make of this?
> SE-WE 237. But because the Jewish Church, in itself, must be one and
> >the same with the Church truly Christian, as was the earliest or infant
> >Church, therefore, so that that Church might be portrayed as an inner one,
> >Abraham depicts a belief that makes one righteous.
> >	The fact that belief was accounted to him because he had believed
> >the promise concerning Isaac, who was to be the promised son [Gen.
> >15:4-6], could not have made Abraham righteous, unless at the same time he
> >had believed that by the promised son was meant the Messiah, Who was to be
> >born, and Who is the One Only promised Son. (SE-WE 237)
> >=======================
> >
> >The apparent anti-semitism in the Writings is counterbalanced by
> >statements like the above, which asserts that the Jewish Church must be
> >the same as the "Church truly Christian" which is a reference to the New
> >Church (TCR). So the NC and the Jewish Church form a one. How are we to
> >interpret this (a) literally, and (b) spiritually?
> >
> >Aloha,
> >
> >Leon
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